Minutes of meeting: November 2003


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MINUTES OF A MEETING OF A PENWITH SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES FORUM (AS YET UNNAMED) HELD AT PENWITH DISTRICT COUNCIL OFFICES, COMMITTEE ROOM 1 ON MONDAY 10th NOVEMBER AT 7.00pm


1. Welcome by Acting Chairman Matthew Trevaskis

Matthew explained that he had set up an on-line discussion group for the Forum . Whilst this may not allow us to discuss all issues, and is of course only available to those with access to a computer, he feels that it will serve as a handy tool to discuss matters ahead of meetings. To join you need to give yourself a Yahoo ID address, which is reasonably straightforward if you follow the on-line instructions but should anybody have any problems please contact Matt by e-mail on (deleted) or phone (deleted). You can look up the site on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/penwithsustainability.

Matt expressed his appreciation for such a great turn out for this, the second meeting of the as yet unnamed group. He asked that we respect each other and that if anybody wishes to speak they should raise their hand.

2. Sandra Rothwell West Cornwall Together

Sandra Rothwell (Co-ordinator of West Cornwall Together our local strategic partnership) gave the group an introduction to WCT and how we could fit within it. WCT covers the districts of both Penwith and Kerrier. The WCT local strategic partnership (LSP) is a Government initiative bringing together key partners including the public sector, private sector, and voluntary community sector as well as residents. It is, of course, only the residents who know what they want in their area and for this reason WCT particularly welcome community involvement.

Neighbourhood Renewal gives extra injection funding into West Cornwall. Neighbourhood Renewal helps local strategic partnerships to work more quickly in the most deprived and needy areas. All LSP's are designed to deliver the local community strategy. Community strategies are written after consulting with communities and asking them what they want. WCT delivers Penwith, Kerrier and Cornwall County Council's Community Strategies. WCT has amalgamated all these strategies into 'Delivering Together' which will launched early next year.

The Penwith Community Strategy Vision for the future can be found on Penwith District Council's website at http://www.penwith.gov.uk.

West Cornwall Together has found six key themes which emerge across all these strategies, these being West Cornwall Community Safety Partnership, Health and wellbeing, Housing, Children,youth and education, Employment, enterprise and economy, and the Environment. Each of these themes has a strong element in all the community strategies.

Each sub group contains a cross section of members from voluntary, private and public sector groups as well as residents. Whilst the sub-groups are reasonably strategic, training and information is given to all members sitting on them.

Sandra informed the group that a potential way in which we could become involved and have some influence on the LSP is to have one or two representatives from our group sitting on the Environmental Sub-Group.

When asked about how WCT can serve the community if its all about differing sub groups Sandra responded that whilst the sub-groups cannot be separated out what the partnership aims to do is to create mechanisms for communities to challenge the decision makers. She suggested that Penwith WCCN (West Cornwall Community Network) could give a talk to this group to inform on how they are able to input into WCT.

It was asked what influence we would have should we nominate representatives to sit on the WCT environment sub-group and how frequent the WCT meetings would be. Sandra explained that we would be able to input on specific issues we wish to take forward and potential local issues to help ensure that sustainability is integrated into our community. The frequency of sub-group meetings ranges but most groups meet 6 weekly.

It was also asked what 'teeth' WCT will have. Sandra told us that LSP's are seen as the way forward in local decision making they have strong support from Government Office South West to ensure that they are not a lobby group but are the drivers helping to ensure the right people are around the table.

Once this group is formalised a decision will be made on whether to elect one or two members to sit on the Environment sub-group of the LSP.

3. Don Holmes Chairman Kerrier OAK (LA21 Group)

Don kindly came along to our meeting to give us a brief introduction to the Kerrier Group and to discuss ways in which we could perhaps work together.

OAK has been running for about 3 years, they see themselves as mainly concerned with conservation of the countryside and wildlife. There are about 40 members on their mailing list, although they have found that attendance at meetings has been flagging recently. OAK consists of members from LETS, The Sustainable Trust, Charles Green Centre, FOE, Camborne Produce Association and Kerrier Conservation Crew.

Matt Trevaskis asked Don how much influence OAK has had on other groups, Don replied that OAK has been involved in recycling in Helston, tree planting in schools, and actively helped in the nature reserve at RedRiver and Tuckingmill Valley Park.

When asked why he thought attendance at meetings was falling Don stated that he felt that not everybody likes to meet in the council chambers, and that he would like to go around the district but the cost of hall hire and insurance is making this difficult.

Asked whether OAK has a direct input into Kerrier Council and whether they are getting decisions into the council, Don replied that Phil Walsh of Kerricr DC helped set up OAK but it is completely independent from the Council.

Don would like it if OAK could join up and form an alliance with our Penwith Group. It was felt that whilst links to other District Groups are useful, it is important that we stay separate but link together when issues call for it and that we keep each other up to date of progress, this could involve attending each other's meetings and putting information on each other's newsletters, etc.

Don Holmes said that the next meeting of OAK is being held on the 18th November at Kerrier District Council Offices at 7pm and that all are welcome to attend.

4. The Way Forward

Copies of the constitution for PLATO (the original LA21 group for Penwith that dissolved about 3 years ago) were passed around, it was felt that this could be a basis for formalising a constitution. It was decided that we needed four or five volunteers who were willing to get together to help come up with a couple of draft constitutions in time for the next meeting.

Matt suggested that we all create a wish list of what issues we would like to see a sustainable group to focus on, and that we have all prepared this before the next meeting, you can send your wish list to Matt's e-mail or home address and he will from that be able to create common links and perhaps formalise hubs so we can encourage those with similar interests to work together. Matt can be contacted at (deleted) or by post (deleted)

It was agreed that we need to come up with a title for this forum and a mission statement. It was also felt that we need to identify our key objectives and also declare our independence from PDC. Ralph felt 'Penwith Area Environmental Network Forum' might be a good name.

It was discussed whether meetings should continue to be held at PDC or whether they should go out and around the district. It was felt important that this group is open to all, however, the general consensus was that until such time as we are well established it might be best to keep the meetings at St Clare. After that we would trial holding meetings at different venues, and encourage car-sharing even more than we do at present.


5. Penwith District Council's support for the group

Karen explained that PDC are in full support of a Penwith Sustainable Community Group and that these council committee rooms will be available free of charge to the group. They will be able to help with stationery, photocopying facilities, etc., and once the group is established they may be able to help fund and support particular projects. She felt that whilst it is important that this group is not seen to be council led and that they need to be independent, she is worried that if they have no contact with the council they will lose an opportunity to help input into local decision making. She would like to feel that the group can become involved in Council making decision processes, in that she can act as a link between the community and the Council, and that she will be able to bring the right people along to the meetings to discuss local sustainability issues. She also stated that a couple of councillors including Simon Reed (Mayor of Penzance) have expressed a keen interest in attending meetings and receiving the minutes of this group and that can only be a good thing as it will also help to ensure that your voices are heard and opinions considered at meetings of the Council.

6. Any Other Business

It was felt that we still need to try and make ourselves known to the wider community, Karen said that WCCN meetings are a good way to raise awareness of community groups. It was suggested that we put monthly updates in 'down your way' in the Cornishman. This will be looked at in more detail at the next meeting.

Ralph offered to act as Chairman for the next meeting.

The next meeting will be held at 7pm Penwith District Council Committee Room 1 on Monday 8th December.


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